Who Made Me a Princess Athy died?

Well yes, this indeed happened, right on Athy debutante. The thing was, Jennette was if you look at the panel equally as frighten of Claude (thou she certainly a optimistic girl based on last encounter with Claude in recent chapters) at that exact moment, there really was no helping at the time. Now does this mean she completely neglected Athy situation past that point. Chances are probably not. Because it was already stated that Jennette always dreamed about having a family, which I would like to assume means having a loving family relationship with both Claude and Athy. Also, given your typical Main Heroine which it seems this novel is playing off on for Jennette, there probably less chances that Jennette was like, let's forget my poor sister, but we won't know.

We also know from Ch. 3 of the webtoon, that the sister must have interacted quite a bit, since precious Athy went out of her way to help out Jennette (which hurts more because it wasn't like she was acting as a Villianess, she did her best to help Jennette). Bringing up the fact that Jennette always wanted to have this loving family relationship, unless Athy straight up hid (which is possible, and well Jennette might have been too much in the clouds to notice), or Athy denied help that I'd at least think in typical heroine fashion that Jennette would have at least tried to help if not multiple times Athy situation with Claude.

Then again, knowing Jennette so far, she is still quite naive (for example, even if I was asking for advice on a present, I certainly wouldn't ask said stranger or let said stranger pass/touch the item unless they were someone who was dressed as a store clerk, especially not in a world of magic), so perhaps she didn't notice at all, which is shame on her I guess, but we have no idea how their interactions were or what events happened other then Athy helping out. Leaving us to using some of second life Jennette to fill in some of the possible interactions.

I'm just saying, yes she's naive and innocent, but it's hard to believe seeing the current chapters that Jennette decided to purposely ignore Athy circumstances. But could have been a variety of things (such as Past Athy not wanting to burden Jennette with her troubles, maybe they tried and it just failed because Claude narrowed it in on Jennette doing good and not Athy instead, or some other circumstance but we don't know since we get very broad details of what happened when reincarnated Athy explains).

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Spoiler: 2."What about the fact that the execution happened, and also the fact that she got away with a happy life too."

Yes, yes indeed that was also sad for Athy. But the thing is I don't think Jennette even had a chance to stop it. Chances are she either based on the poisoning incident, was in a coma or simply did not know until Claude was executing her. Well I'd like to think she was most likely in a coma the whole time simply based on the recent incidents in the webtoon from 40-44. The fact that Jennette is the only one willing to stand and help Athy get away from the "dangerous beast" rather then run off like all the other ladies did (well she failed magnificently if you think about it still being somewhat idle beside Athy since she didn't jump right to block the non-dangerous Blackie from pouncing Athy, but maybe Blackie just that fast, or Jennette simply has poor reaction skills). In the very least, it implies she cares about her "family" to the point she'd be willing to risk her life for it. Also a couple of other things that happened such as being closed by when the reaction happened, getting blown away from said reaction when she tried to help, but some of those things are more of in the moment rather then her being brave like the first point. Which plays into the role of Jennette had always wanted a family and in typical "Heroine" fashion, she probably treasures Athy to risk her life for it, hopefully something that was also the case in her first life.

So, then some people might ask why is our MC a bit wary of Jennette still at first, she clearly must be some evil Heroine just like those reincarnation novel. Well probably on the basis of two throught process. One, she has no idea how second life Jennette is really like, already proven by the fact her father, Claude, became more "human" over time and in fact become a doting father (which was a great scene during the debutante when MC/Athy could also finally admit seeing him as a father despite all the crap he's done and put her through, it's sure has come a long way). Second, the fact that just the fact she was near Jennette during a poisoning incident set off her own death flag. Which yeah, if I was killed for a crime I didn't do, just by simply being next to someone favourite person and my executioner was someone who hates me, then yeah, I would not be comfortable at all at first or perhaps forever. Hence why you get the dialogue bit that she's finally letting her guard down cause her relationship with Claude has changed entirely. But even then, I'm all with MC/Athy having her guard up initially, because even if Jennette hadn't done anything to her, simply being with her was what got said character killed in the first place.

Which brings to the next point of "she totally got off with a happy life". Not exactly. Okay certainly happier then Athy, but it wasn't a super happy life. First off it was said she felt guilt over Athy death. Again, based on her character in second life, I don't think Jennette would have let Athy get executed. She was at least in second life willing to risk her life to save her sister. Chances are, I bet as I mention earlier, she was in a coma and by the time she woke up, the deed was done. And it was only said that her guilt was comforted away by her fiance. Not saying that Ijekil in first life did the deed himself (cause well he is also precious in his own right chasing Athy), but for all we know, chances are she might have been brainwash, cursed, or been bewitch by someone else considering what we saw. Or maybe she did eventually put that ordeal behind her without any evil influences, but we only have ah, "They got married the end" before the "Just kidding, EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL" after that. So no, she didn't get away scott free, she lost her dear sister due to an incident that totally didn't need to happen, and didn't even get a chance to save her, and well first life is probably a huge mess since it seems like the "antagonist" succeeded under the layer of "happy life".

ReadingNovelsAtaCafe said:

Just made an account to post, and was sifting through the comments about Jennette. Well, you're free to think what you like about her in the end, but I just wanted to point out some things that seem slightly misconstrued whether that's due to what chapter or information was told at said time, but well it happened.

Well this is based on reading the webtoon with few assumptions using what we've seen of Jennette so far at it's current point (chapter 45-46) which maybe some people did change their view since we weren't all at this point in the previous postings. Well note that there are spoilers below up to this point, and well if you're in the spoiler section, that's to be expected., though I collapse both 1 and 2 into spoiler tags to make it easier to open and scroll through, sorry didn't even realise I wrote such a long post in the morning @_@

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Spoiler: 1. "Even though she was naive and innocent supposedly, she had that one point where she didn't help out Athy. She definitely neglected her the rest of story."

Well yes, this indeed happened, right on Athy debutante. The thing was, Jennette was if you look at the panel equally as frighten of Claude (thou she certainly a optimistic girl based on last encounter with Claude in recent chapters) at that exact moment, there really was no helping at the time. Now does this mean she completely neglected Athy situation past that point. Chances are probably not. Because it was already stated that Jennette always dreamed about having a family, which I would like to assume means having a loving family relationship with both Claude and Athy. Also, given your typical Main Heroine which it seems this novel is playing off on for Jennette, there probably less chances that Jennette was like, let's forget my poor sister, but we won't know.

We also know from Ch. 3 of the webtoon, that the sister must have interacted quite a bit, since precious Athy went out of her way to help out Jennette (which hurts more because it wasn't like she was acting as a Villianess, she did her best to help Jennette). Bringing up the fact that Jennette always wanted to have this loving family relationship, unless Athy straight up hid (which is possible, and well Jennette might have been too much in the clouds to notice), or Athy denied help that I'd at least think in typical heroine fashion that Jennette would have at least tried to help if not multiple times Athy situation with Claude.

Then again, knowing Jennette so far, she is still quite naive (for example, even if I was asking for advice on a present, I certainly wouldn't ask said stranger or let said stranger pass/touch the item unless they were someone who was dressed as a store clerk, especially not in a world of magic), so perhaps she didn't notice at all, which is shame on her I guess, but we have no idea how their interactions were or what events happened other then Athy helping out. Leaving us to using some of second life Jennette to fill in some of the possible interactions.

I'm just saying, yes she's naive and innocent, but it's hard to believe seeing the current chapters that Jennette decided to purposely ignore Athy circumstances. But could have been a variety of things (such as Past Athy not wanting to burden Jennette with her troubles, maybe they tried and it just failed because Claude narrowed it in on Jennette doing good and not Athy instead, or some other circumstance but we don't know since we get very broad details of what happened when reincarnated Athy explains).

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Spoiler: 2."What about the fact that the execution happened, and also the fact that she got away with a happy life too."

Yes, yes indeed that was also sad for Athy. But the thing is I don't think Jennette even had a chance to stop it. Chances are she either based on the poisoning incident, was in a coma or simply did not know until Claude was executing her. Well I'd like to think she was most likely in a coma the whole time simply based on the recent incidents in the webtoon from 40-44. The fact that Jennette is the only one willing to stand and help Athy get away from the "dangerous beast" rather then run off like all the other ladies did (well she failed magnificently if you think about it still being somewhat idle beside Athy since she didn't jump right to block the non-dangerous Blackie from pouncing Athy, but maybe Blackie just that fast, or Jennette simply has poor reaction skills). In the very least, it implies she cares about her "family" to the point she'd be willing to risk her life for it. Also a couple of other things that happened such as being closed by when the reaction happened, getting blown away from said reaction when she tried to help, but some of those things are more of in the moment rather then her being brave like the first point. Which plays into the role of Jennette had always wanted a family and in typical "Heroine" fashion, she probably treasures Athy to risk her life for it, hopefully something that was also the case in her first life.

So, then some people might ask why is our MC a bit wary of Jennette still at first, she clearly must be some evil Heroine just like those reincarnation novel. Well probably on the basis of two throught process. One, she has no idea how second life Jennette is really like, already proven by the fact her father, Claude, became more "human" over time and in fact become a doting father (which was a great scene during the debutante when MC/Athy could also finally admit seeing him as a father despite all the crap he's done and put her through, it's sure has come a long way). Second, the fact that just the fact she was near Jennette during a poisoning incident set off her own death flag. Which yeah, if I was killed for a crime I didn't do, just by simply being next to someone favourite person and my executioner was someone who hates me, then yeah, I would not be comfortable at all at first or perhaps forever. Hence why you get the dialogue bit that she's finally letting her guard down cause her relationship with Claude has changed entirely. But even then, I'm all with MC/Athy having her guard up initially, because even if Jennette hadn't done anything to her, simply being with her was what got said character killed in the first place.

Which brings to the next point of "she totally got off with a happy life". Not exactly. Okay certainly happier then Athy, but it wasn't a super happy life. First off it was said she felt guilt over Athy death. Again, based on her character in second life, I don't think Jennette would have let Athy get executed. She was at least in second life willing to risk her life to save her sister. Chances are, I bet as I mention earlier, she was in a coma and by the time she woke up, the deed was done. And it was only said that her guilt was comforted away by her fiance. Not saying that Ijekil in first life did the deed himself (cause well he is also precious in his own right chasing Athy), but for all we know, chances are she might have been brainwash, cursed, or been bewitch by someone else considering what we saw. Or maybe she did eventually put that ordeal behind her without any evil influences, but we only have ah, "They got married the end" before the "Just kidding, EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL" after that. So no, she didn't get away scott free, she lost her dear sister due to an incident that totally didn't need to happen, and didn't even get a chance to save her, and well first life is probably a huge mess since it seems like the "antagonist" succeeded under the layer of "happy life".

Anyways yeah, she's naive, innocent, and probably bland to some people, which I'm not going to argue. And I'm not saying that she 100% should be absolved for whatever happened in her past life, cause she could have probably done more well at least we assume she could do more given no details. But there definitely things that have been brought up in recent chapters that has changed what I thought of Jennette that I wanted to share.

So, yes, this is just what I thought of Jennette based on how she is currently in second life and details that our precious Athy has told us so far of what happened in first life and just forming an image of her and what might have been possible events in first life since it doesn't seem like she's that different from what Athy read. Not every card that could have changed Athy circumstance was in Jennette hand and it's really a tragedy of both princesses, one who was neglected and wanted fatherly love, and one who wanted a family, but used in a political plot to destroy that very family. Just Athy, the MC, needs that leg up compared to Jennette. Because let's be real, even with everything that happened underneath the surface, Jennette did get away relatively happy (or maybe it's more of a bitter sweet if you take everything else into account, that's up to you) in comparison to Athy. Just maybe not the "oh my good 100% positive nothing wrong here Happy ending" as we initially thought. But then again, perhaps second life Jennette is nothing like first life Jennette, maybe first life Jennette got manipulated more easily, or things played out different that she's more of a selfish Jennette in first life, but I guess you could also say none of that matters now because the story has already shifted course every since Athy met Claude 4 years earlier then the original timeline (or maybe it does, cause you shouldn't be absolved of the sins of your past life, well to each your own on that point). Just saying to be a bit more sympathetic of Jennette, cause first life Jennette road despite everything the happiness she did find sure is going on a bumpy road one based on current chapters reveal. The poor girl can't also can't get a break as she almost killed Athy again indirectly for a second time. Also poor Athy TT.TT cause she just got everything to work out and then boom it was destroyed. I hope first Athy reincarnated somewhere happy, maybe a spinoff of first Athy in our world (probably own't happen, but hey, who can't dream) as our transmigrated reincarnated Athy perseveres onward on the bumpy road ahead.

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Interesting take and I believe this is the general take among people who understand the role of Jeannette. Let me preface that II don't actively hate Jeanette and I hope for good development of her character.

Like many here, I am annoyed by her personality. If you aren't familiar with the term white lotus, the reference is a few pages back. Jeannette is a white lotus and I tend to not to like white lotus characters because they represent an idealistic world that is neither impractical and not relatable character to me as a reader.

As per your points, you do have points. But keep in mind this: we are 'seeing' the novel and the toon in Athy's perspective. The reincarnated Athy who has previous knowledge of the novel and the fate of her character. newAthy's reference has a limited point of view which also translates to us as readers. So anything that Jeanette might have done is the novel is sparse. newAthy's actions are to deal with situation she encounters and make sure that her death wont be repeated again (because the real Athanasia technically is already dead).

So, Athy that we know doesn't have an idea on what Jeanette has done in the novel. She probably didn't care because Jeannette isn't her priority. Her priority is to make sure she doesn't end up dead. She knows Jeanette is a pawn, both in the novel and the current timeline - a reason she befriends her, although with some suspicion, because she also didn't think Jeanette is that kind of person.

My only beef with Jennette is per personality. Yes, it's a subjective opinion and I am biased against her because of this. In the novel, we don't know her circumstances and her effort. All we know is she got a happy ending coz she's the MC. But I hated that she threw her principles of having a family to get a happy ending. Yes, we really don't know. But it looks and feels that way. But I hope that her future actions will eventually led for happy endings for both of them. I can sympathize with Jeanette but I don't see myself really warming to her. It's just like real life, there are some people who I cant really like. But it doesn't mean I want to nail her to a cross. As long as she makes an effort to help Athy, I am content with that.

Hope this covers your points.

edited for brevity, grammar things and emphasis

 

Like I said. Personality wise, that's fair game, in terms of whether you warm up to it or hate it. And yeah I understand that there a limited view point which also gives us the idea in the first before we got more exposition that Jennette in the simplest way sacrificed Athy for her happy family life. But it really can be expanded via making inferences, well assuming you not making wild assumptions, which I think you agree that I'm not exactly making. This is beyond the scope of show instead of tell since it's using parts of the story as a way to infer events whether future or past events. Also like I did say and see that you're agreeing with, for have such a limited scope that as much as I say these points using second life Jennette current personality, that could easily crumbled if first life Jennette was different. I just think that assuming first life Jennette unless otherwise is widely different had no choice in the matter and was forced by outside forces toward "happy end" rather then what she originally wanted based on what we have and can infer so far. Certainly the first couple of chapters and also definitely what the author uses to make you care more for Athy is that limited scope of information. Not saying I disagree, you definitely made to feel that way of Jennette at first. A girl who has no idea how the world works and then similarly ruined poor Athy and Athy wasn't even a proper Villianess unlike most novel settings.

Just wanted to say, that we've also gotten a lot more stuff to make some fair inferences now that it really was out of her hand (feels less believable now that she willingly gave up happy family life for "happy ending" then it did before), well assuming Jennette is not someone who would so easily give up her family life principle which at least current chapter show she wasn't with new Athy.

Well, I also do admit to have a bias or rather I enjoy the story so much more where it isn't so cliche that the "main heroine" is the true villian, and that she either becomes friend with MC, gets to learn more from the MC to be less... well ditzy or even maybe they just never cross paths and she just goes off her own way other then maybe rare non story related encounters which is also think is something rare as a plot point that I haven't seen much off/yet

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ReadingNovelsAtaCafe said:

Like I said. Personality wise, that's fair game, in terms of whether you warm up to it or hate it. And yeah I understand that there a limited view point which also gives us the idea in the first before we got more exposition that Jennette in the simplest way sacrificed Athy for her happy family life. But it really can be expanded via making inferences, well assuming you not making wild assumptions, which I think you agree that I'm not exactly making. This is beyond the scope of show instead of tell since it's using parts of the story as a way to infer events whether future or past events. Also like I did say and see that you're agreeing with, for have such a limited scope that as much as I say these points using second life Jennette current personality, that could easily crumbled if first life Jennette was different. I just think that assuming first life Jennette unless otherwise is widely different had no choice in the matter and was forced by outside forces toward "happy end" rather then what she originally wanted based on what we have and can infer so far. Certainly the first couple of chapters and also definitely what the author uses to make you care more for Athy is that limited scope of information. Not saying I disagree, you definitely made to feel that way of Jennette at first. A girl who has no idea how the world works and then similarly ruined poor Athy and Athy wasn't even a proper Villianess unlike most novel settings.

Just wanted to say, that we've also gotten a lot more stuff to make some fair inferences now that it really was out of her hand (feels less believable now that she willingly gave up happy family life for "happy ending" then it did before), well assuming Jennette is not someone who would so easily give up her family life principle which at least current chapter show she wasn't with new Athy.

Well, I also do admit to have a bias or rather I enjoy the story so much more where it isn't so cliche that the "main heroine" is the true villian, and that she either becomes friend with MC, gets to learn more from the MC to be less... well ditzy or even maybe they just never cross paths and she just goes off her own way other then maybe rare non story related encounters which is also think is something rare as a plot point that I haven't seen much off/yet

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I am glad we agree on most points.

I highlighted some points in your response.

In there, you say that Jeannette has no choice in matter, was forced, A girl who has no idea how the world works. The very definition of a white lotus.

Yes, we assumed because there are no contradicting perspectives to what is presented and we infer. And based on that assumptions and inferences, me as a reader sees and feels Jeannette as naïve and uncaring (my own personal opinion) due to her inaction. Which resulted in a tragedy. In this scenario, for me the end does not justify the means, especially if there was an expressed or revealed intention to have a good and positive relationship like having a family. For me, Jeannette’s desire (having a family) contradicts her actions. Her very trait and nature overwrites everything and that is why for me, she is not effective, forgettable and at the worst, the brunt of all scrutiny.

That is why I refuse to typecast her as the villainess coz she isn’t (she is a white lotus deifnately) but being a white lotus she enabled the villains (her father and the duke). The latter is the problem for me. In a nutshell, she is a bystander and ‘lucky’. Which contributes to the unfairness of the ending where an innocent life has to be the price for other people’s happiness.

I am also linking a similar perspective and reflections to mine in this page: https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/suddenly-became-a-princess-one-day.74186/page-11. Post 216 (https://forum.novelupdates.com/posts/4673658/) pretty much nails it.

 

ATrueStory said:

I am glad we agree on most points.

I highlighted some points in your response.

In there, you say that Jeannette has no choice in matter, was forced, A girl who has no idea how the world works. The very definition of a white lotus.

Yes, we assumed because there are no contradicting perspectives to what is presented and we infer. And based on that assumptions and inferences, me as a reader sees and feels Jeannette as naïve and uncaring (my own personal opinion) due to her inaction. Which resulted in a tragedy. In this scenario, for me the end does not justify the means, especially if there was an expressed or revealed intention to have a good and positive relationship like having a family. For me, Jeannette’s desire (having a family) contradicts her actions. Her very trait and nature overwrites everything and that is why for me, she is not effective, forgettable and at the worst, the brunt of all scrutiny.

That is why I refuse to typecast her as the villainess coz she isn’t (she is a white lotus deifnately) but being a white lotus she enabled the villains (her father and the duke). The latter is the problem for me. In a nutshell, she is a bystander and ‘lucky’. Which contributes to the unfairness of the ending where an innocent life has to be the price for other people’s happiness.

I am also linking a similar perspective and reflections to mine in this page pretty much nails it.

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I mean honestly that's more on assuming she did nothing which I talked about. Like I said before, it's hard to believe that she wouldn't have acted at all based on the current chapters unless outside circumstance occurred. Yet we go back on the direct thought that she just didn't do anything. Which is fine, we have no idea what exactly happen. But that's probably where we'll differ until we get more exposition otherwise. Cause what I infer is that it just too unlikely that she didn't take action, in fact, she probably was incapacitated at the time of the deed was done. I guess at that point it's we agree to disagree on what we infer on though.

How did Athanasia mother died?

Missing Mom: Athanasia's mother, Diana, died due to giving birth to her. Athy did see her in her dreams, it's just that she wasn't even aware it was her... until she grows older and realizes that the dreams she saw are Claude's memories of his time with Diana.

Who does Athanasia love?

In more than one occasion, Athanasia has shown that she's grateful to her and how much she loves her as lilian is one of the people she valued the most.

What happens to Claude in the end of who made me a princess?

In The Lovely Princess, Claude executed Athanasia de Alger Obelia and usurped the throne by murdering Anastacius de Alger Obelia, his older brother and proper heir to the throne. In the new timeline, Claude meets his daughter four years earlier.

Is Athanasia immortal?

Saint Athanasia is immortal in the love and veneration of the Catholic Church. Saint Athanasia of Aegina, pray for us!