We may be the minority. The twins lost me at rubbing a big infected purulent finger on Steve’s stoma. Our victim is a closet alcoholic in his golden years that was just blasted in the gut with a shotgun and discharged to Celeste’s care at home for all of just a day before succumbing to sepsis. In my opinion…this storyline of exposing a fresh surgical incision that’s made explicitly for safe passage of fecal matter (colostomy) to this alleged infectious finger pus? It was just overkill. There’s literally an endless combination of contributing factors that I stated initially to Steve’s poor prognosis in terms of recovery. I really started scrutinizing their “truth” after that. I came to realize that I had unfairly written Celeste off from the very beginning as a gaslighting, gold digging narcissist with a delusional adoptive mother that’s way out of touch enabling her. Perhaps her prison attire influenced my initial bias. But after I regained perspective with the septicemia storyline, I was much more open to Celeste being a little more truthful than I was giving her credit for. I’m not saying that one side is all evil bad while the other all innocent good. I believe that I’m much more comfortable recognizing that if truth is generally somewhere in the middle, I’d be willing to concede a few more points to Celeste’s side because of that overkill bias phenomenon.
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Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Found the internet! 50 82.0% Kristina and Jennifer (daughters) 9 14.8% Both sides are lying 0 0.0% Other (explain in comments) Voting closed 4 months ago Continue this thread <svg viewbox="0 0 11.4 11.4" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" class="egHA5MD_goQfvgLP3zgST"><g><path fill="inherit" d="m11.17929,5.99479c0.08081,-0.19519 0.08081,-0.41599 0,-0.61118c-0.0408,-0.0984 -0.0992,-0.1864 -0.17361,-0.2608l-4.79963,-4.79911c-0.31283,-0.3128 -0.81847,-0.3128 -1.1313,0c-0.31283,0.31279 -0.31283,0.81918 0,1.13118l3.43471,3.43433l-7.66949,0c-0.44244,0 -0.80007,0.3584 -0.80007,0.79999c0,0.44159 0.35763,0.79999 0.80007,0.79999l7.66949,0l-3.43471,3.43433c-0.31283,0.3128 -0.31283,0.81919 0,1.13118c0.15601,0.156 0.36083,0.2344 0.56565,0.2344c0.20482,0 0.40964,-0.0784 0.56565,-0.2344l4.79963,-4.79911c0.07441,-0.0744 0.13281,-0.1624 0.17361,-0.2608" /></g></svg></a></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div id="t1_ib3qrnn" style="padding-left:16px" tabindex="-1" class="_3sf33-9rVAO_v4y0pIW_CH"><div class="_1DooEIX-1Nj5rweIc5cw_E"><div class="_3Wv3am0TXfTcugZJ6niui"><div class="_36AIN2ppxy_z-XSDxTvYj5 t1_ib3qrnn undefined"><i class="threadline"></i></div></div></div><div class="Comment t1_ib3qrnn P8SGAKMtRxNwlmLz1zdJu HZ-cv9q391bm8s7qT54B3 _1z5rdmX8TDr6mqwNv7A70U"><button class="_1nGapmdexvR0BuOkfAi6wa t1_ib3qrnn _1zN1-lYh2LfbYOMAho_O8g _2Gzh48SaLz7dQBCULfOC6V"><i class="icon icon-expand _1tnrhhM9S7dYjApTfvd14l"></i></button><a target="_blank" class="_3GfQMgsm3HGd3838lwqCST" data-testid="comment_author_icon" href="https://www.reddit.com/user/Minhplumb/"><div class="_13ScjOmi6dGdJw0JAonQEr"></div></a><div class="_3tw__eCCe7j-epNCKGXUKk"><span class="_1RIl585IYPW6cmNXwgRz0J">level 1</span><div class="-Xcv3XBXmgiY2X5RqaPbO _1S45SPAIb30fsXtEcKPSdt _3LqBzV8aCO9tge99jHiUGy" data-testid="post-comment-header"><span class="_1a_HxF03jCyxnx706hQmJR"><div class="_3QEK34iVL1BjyHAVleVVNQ"></div><span class="_2ETuFsVzMBxiHia6HfJCTQ _8b8fUdBRxCYj9MkNpFvvv"> · </span><a class="_3yx4Dn0W3Yunucf5sVJeFU" data-testid="comment_timestamp" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whodoyoubelieve/comments/v2xuok/comment/ib3qrnn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" id="CommentTopMeta--Created--t1_ib3qrnn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">4 mo. ago</a><div class="_3XoW0oYd5806XiOr24gGdb"></div></span></div><div data-testid="comment" class="_3cjCphgls6DH-irkVaA0GM"><div class="_292iotee39Lmt0MkQZ2hPV RichTextJSON-root"><p class="_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM">This was not a good case for this show. It is obvious and she was convicted. The woman who shot the man was out in 2011. She may have been lied to but no excuse for murdering someone in cold blood. So much for tough on crime Texas.</p></div></div><div class="_3KgrO85L1p9wQbgwG27q4y"><div class="_1E9mcoVn4MYnuBQSVDt1gC _2oM1YqCxIwkvwyeZamWwhW _1ewTEGuogtFmDvDII2T2Yy" id="vote-arrows-t1_ib3qrnn"><button aria-label="upvote" aria-pressed="false" class="voteButton _2m5vzALl8kQdr9kwIFUo5t" data-click-id="upvote" data-adclicklocation="upvote"><span class="_2q7IQ0BUOWeEZoeAxN555e _3SUsITjKNQ7Tp0Wi2jGxIM _22nWXKAY6OzAfK5GcUqWV2 qW0l8Af61EP35WIG6vnGk _3edNsMs0PNfyQYofMNVhsG"><i class="icon icon-upvote _2Jxk822qXs4DaXwsN7yyHA"></i></span></button><div class="_1rZYMD_4xY3gRcSS3p8ODO _25IkBM0rRUqWX5ZojEMAFQ _3ChHiOyYyUkpZ_Nm3ZyM2M" style="color:#1A1A1B">3</div><button aria-label="downvote" aria-pressed="false" class="voteButton _2m5vzALl8kQdr9kwIFUo5t" data-click-id="downvote" data-adclicklocation="downvote"><span class="_1iKd82bq_nqObFvSH1iC_Q Q0BxYHtCOJ_rNSPJMU2Y7 _2fe-KdD2OM0ciaiux-G1EL _3yQIOwaIuF6gn8db96Gu7y"><i class="icon icon-downvote ZyxIIl4FP5gHGrJDzNpUC"></i></span></button></div><div class="XZK-LTFT5CgGo9MvPQQsy _1LXnp2ufrzN6ioaTLTjGQ1 _2t8wLytikHzPCUnvXdS_wu _3rHRwVOKmBBlBOQ4kIW_vq _2_lhaFUJdP8q0o2L9MN2TN"><button class="_374Hkkigy4E4srsI2WktEd"><i class="icon icon-comment _1g4YvNNIFoV_5_EhsVfyRy"></i>Reply</button><div id="t1_ib3qrnn-comment-share-menu"><button class="_374Hkkigy4E4srsI2WktEd">Share</button></div><button class="_374Hkkigy4E4srsI2WktEd _2hr3tRWszeMRQ0u_Whs7t8 _14hLFU5cIJCyxH9DSgsCov">Report</button><button class="_374Hkkigy4E4srsI2WktEd _2hr3tRWszeMRQ0u_Whs7t8 _14hLFU5cIJCyxH9DSgsCov">Save</button><button class="_374Hkkigy4E4srsI2WktEd _2hr3tRWszeMRQ0u_Whs7t8 _14hLFU5cIJCyxH9DSgsCov">Follow</button><div class="hrV8gUgmt0V7wM2wgZ81l _1YnPvd-E5MbmcM3PvRRcX _14hLFU5cIJCyxH9DSgsCov"><button aria-expanded="false" aria-haspopup="true" aria-label="more options" id="t1_ib3qrnn-overflow-menu" data-adclicklocation="overflow_menu" class="_2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu _1VR6DV38j4rMT5OMeU4gJZ uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu"><i class="_38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy icon icon-overflow_horizontal"></i></button></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div id="t1_ib6itpu" style="padding-left:37px" tabindex="-1" class="_3sf33-9rVAO_v4y0pIW_CH"><div class="_1DooEIX-1Nj5rweIc5cw_E"><div class="_36AIN2ppxy_z-XSDxTvYj5 t1_ib3qrnn"><i class="threadline"></i></div><div class="_3Wv3am0TXfTcugZJ6niui"><div class="_36AIN2ppxy_z-XSDxTvYj5 t1_ib6itpu"><i class="threadline"></i></div></div></div><div class="Comment t1_ib6itpu P8SGAKMtRxNwlmLz1zdJu HZ-cv9q391bm8s7qT54B3"><button class="_1nGapmdexvR0BuOkfAi6wa t1_ib6itpu _1zN1-lYh2LfbYOMAho_O8g _2Gzh48SaLz7dQBCULfOC6V"><i class="icon icon-expand _1tnrhhM9S7dYjApTfvd14l"></i></button><a target="_blank" class="_3GfQMgsm3HGd3838lwqCST" data-testid="comment_author_icon" href="https://www.reddit.com/user/dawnie_db/"><div class="_13ScjOmi6dGdJw0JAonQEr"></div></a><div class="_3tw__eCCe7j-epNCKGXUKk"><span class="_1RIl585IYPW6cmNXwgRz0J">level 2</span><div class="-Xcv3XBXmgiY2X5RqaPbO _1S45SPAIb30fsXtEcKPSdt _3LqBzV8aCO9tge99jHiUGy" data-testid="post-comment-header"><span class="_1a_HxF03jCyxnx706hQmJR"><div class="_3QEK34iVL1BjyHAVleVVNQ"></div><span class="_2ETuFsVzMBxiHia6HfJCTQ _8b8fUdBRxCYj9MkNpFvvv"> · </span><a class="_3yx4Dn0W3Yunucf5sVJeFU" data-testid="comment_timestamp" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/whodoyoubelieve/comments/v2xuok/comment/ib6itpu/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" id="CommentTopMeta--Created--t1_ib6itpu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">4 mo. ago</a><div class="_3XoW0oYd5806XiOr24gGdb"></div></span></div><div data-testid="comment" class="_3cjCphgls6DH-irkVaA0GM"><div class="_292iotee39Lmt0MkQZ2hPV RichTextJSON-root"><p class="_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM">I think you’re onto something about this not being the right show/format for this story.</p><p class="_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM">BUT as a true crime fiend who has heard Steven Beard’s case on a half dozen different podcasts, I was fascinated to hear Jennifer &amp; Kristina’s experiences and perspectives. When put side-by-side with Celeste’s version, it’s so clear Celeste is/was coping with manic depression on top of a personality disorder. Her manipulation and control over Kristina was particularly upsetting.</p><p class="_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM">So while some elements of this episode were forced to fit the format, I’m glad they picked it. It wouldn’t have been nearly as compelling without Celeste responding to the twins’ allegations. 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