What is a positive entropy reaction?

Calculating the entropy change of the surroundings.

So far, you know how to work out the entropy change of the system for a given reaction if you are told the entropies of all the substances involved in the reaction.

There is a simple equation for the entropy change of the surroundings.

ΔH is the enthalpy change for the reaction. T is the temperature.

That seems easy, but there is a major trap to fall in here, and if you manage to get through your course without falling into it at least once, you will have done really well!

There is a mismatch between the units of enthalpy change and entropy change. When you quote figures for enthalpy change they will have energy units of kJ. But entropy change is quoted in energy units of J.

That means that if you are calculating entropy change, you must multiply the enthalpy change value by 1000.

So if, say, you have an enthalpy change of -92.2 kJ mol-1, the value you must put into the equation is -92200 J mol-1.

If the temperature was 298 K . . .

Notice that the negative sign in the equation converts the negative exothermic enthalpy change into a positive entropy change. An exothermic change heats the surroundings, and increases the entropy of the surroundings.

Working out the total entropy change

If, for example, the entropy change of the reaction (the system) was +112 J K-1 mol-1, then the total entropy change would be

The importance of total entropy change

For a reaction to be feasible, the total entropy has to increase - in other words the sign of the total entropy change must be positive.

So what does "feasible" mean in reaction terms?

A feasible reaction is one that is possible in terms of energy, but it doesn't mean that it will necessarily happen. Although energetically it might be feasible, it may have a large activation energy barrier that will slow it down, or even prevent it from happening altogether at a particular temperature.

If the total entropy change is negative (if entropy decreases) then the reaction isn't feasible.

Feasible or spontaneous?

The word spontaneous is often used in place of feasible.

In everyday life, something is spontaneous if it happens of its own accord, without any input from outside. The same thing is true in chemistry, but there is one major difference which defies everyday common sense.

If you drop marble chips (calcium carbonate) into dilute hydrochloric acid, there is an immediate fizzing. You don't need to do anything else - the reaction happens entirely of its own accord. It is a spontaneous change.

But in chemistry, a spontaneous change doesn't have to be rapid; in fact, it can be very, very, very slow indeed - even infinitely slow!

For example, carbon burns in oxygen to make carbon dioxide, but a piece of carbon will stay totally unchanged however long you keep it unless you first heat it. The energetics are right for a reaction to happen, but there is a huge activation energy.

Chemistry counts the reaction between carbon and oxygen as spontaneous! Personally, I think that is daft, and I prefer the word "feasible", which is often used in this topic. However, If your examiners use the word spontaneous, then you will be expected to as well.

Some examples

Example 1: Dissolving ammonium nitrate in water

This is a simple example of an endothermic change which nevertheless happens because there is a large increase in disorder when the crystal breaks up into its separate ions and mixes with the water.

The entropy change to the surroundings will be negative because of the cooling caused by the ammonium nitrate dissolving, but this is more than made up for by the large increase in the entropy of the system. So the total entropy change is positive, and the change is feasible - actually also literally spontaneous in this instance.

Example 2: The reaction between concentrated ethanoic acid and solid ammonium carbonate

This is another endothermic change which becomes feasible because the increase in entropy due to the gaseous carbon dioxide formed outweighs the fall in entropy of the surroundings. The total entropy increases and so the reaction is feasible (and again literally spontaneous).

Example 3: The reaction between magnesium ribbon and oxygen

This is simple to do as a calculation. We will work out the total entropy change if a reaction happened at room temperature (say 293 K).

The enthalpy change for the reaction is -1204 kJ mol-1, and the entropy change of the system is -216 J K-1mol-1.

The overall calculation looks like this, with the answer quoted to 3 signficant figures:

Don't forget to convert the enthalpy change into joules!

There has been a very large increase in entropy overall, so is the reaction feasible? Yes! Is it spontaneous (in the usual meaning of the word) at 293 K (room temperature)? No!

Magnesium may tarnish forming magnesium oxide or hydroxide very, very slowly in air, but you need to supply a lot of activation energy to get it to burn.

You mustn't assume that all feasible reactions actually happen quickly (or even at all) in the lab.

Example 4: The reaction between solid hydrated barium hydroxide and solid ammonium chloride

I am including this rather obscure reaction because it is mentioned specifically by one of the UK's A level Exam Boards.

The enthalpy change for the reaction is +164 kJ mol-1 assuming the barium chloride is as shown in the equation, or somewhat less if it is formed as BaCl2,2H2O.

Assuming it is produced as BaCl2, the entropy change for the system is +591J K-1mol-1. That is a high value because of the gas and liquid molecules being formed from two more ordered solids.

If you use these figures to calculate the total entropy change, and assuming a temperature of 293 K, you should find that it comes to +31.3 J K-1mol-1. It is positive, and the reaction is feasible.

Example 5: Making benzene from its elements

The enthalpy change of the reaction is +49.0 kJ mol-1, and the entropy change of the system is -254 J K-1mol-1.

So it is an endothermic reaction with a decrease in entropy of the system. We don't need to do a calculation with this. It is quicker just to give it a bit of thought!

The entropy change of the surroundings is going to be negative because of the minus sign in the equation. Look back at the equation further up the page if you aren't sure.

Since the entropy change of the system is also negative, the total entropy change is bound to be negative whatever the temperature you choose. The reaction isn't feasible at any temperature.

A quick introduction to Gibbs free energy

The next page in this sequence of pages looks at Gibbs free energy and how you can predict the feasibility of reactions using that concept. All I want to do for now is to see how this new term comes from what we have already discussed on this page.

You know that:

ΔStotal = ΔSsurroundings + ΔSsystem

You also know how the entropy change of the surroundings is related to the enthalpy change of the reaction:

Putting these together, and rearranging slightly by multiplying everything by T to get rid of the fraction gives:

The term on the left-hand side is known as the Gibbs free energy, and is given the symbol ΔG. That means that you can write the fairly simple looking equation:

ΔG = ΔH - TΔS

The ΔS in this version is always just the entropy change of the system.

You will see how this equation is used in the next page of this sequence.

Questions to test your understanding

Because this is all covered in detail in my calculations book I shan't be setting any questions throughout this section on entropy and free energy

Where would you like to go now?

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To the Physical Chemistry menu . . .

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© Jim Clark 2017

What reactions have positive entropy?

Here are some good examples of reactions that would have positive entropy..
Formation of gases. CO2(s) g CO2(g) ... .
Formation of ions in solution. NaCl(s) g Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq).
More molecules of product than reactants. 2NH3(g) g N2(g) + 3H2(g) ... .
The temperature of a substance is increased. H2O(l, 25oC) g H2O(l, 50oC).

What does positive entropy mean?

A positive (+) entropy change means an increase in disorder. The universe tends toward increased entropy. All spontaneous change occurs with an increase in entropy of the universe.

How do you tell if a reaction has a positive entropy?

Entropy increases as you go from solid to liquid to gas, and you can predict whether entropy change is positive or negative by looking at the phases of the reactants and products. Whenever there is an increase in gas moles, entropy will increase.

What does it mean when entropy is positive and negative?

Positive entropy: a system that becomes more disordered. Negative entropy: a system that becomes more ordered.

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